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The Church Explained podcast is a conversation that will help to develop your leadership and grow your church. Our goal on this podcast is to share inspirational insights and ideas to resource leaders, churches and teams. Through our conversations with key team players at IKON church and other guests.
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Friday Oct 07, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP: 23 - WITH GUEST MARK KRESGE
Friday Oct 07, 2022
Friday Oct 07, 2022
The Church Explained podcast is a conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
Welcome to Season 2, Episode: 23 of the Church Explained Podcast with guest Mark Kresge
A Short bio
Mark and Natalie Kresge lead from a passion for seeing the local church empowered to advance the kingdom of God. As founders of the Collaborative Project, Mark & Natalie advance the Kingdom of God by serving the local church through making disciples, developing leaders, and equipping families to be healthy.
They have been married for 11 years and have a 4-year-old son, Jude. They reside in Sacramento, CA and have a love for movies, competition, and sushi.
In part two of our conversation with Mark, we take a peek behind the scenes at how he keeps things healthy and strong in his family and ministry by embracing the right rhythms as a leader.
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Friday Sep 30, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP: 22 - WITH GUEST MARK KRESGE
Friday Sep 30, 2022
Friday Sep 30, 2022
Welcome to Season 2 Episode: 22 of the Church Explained Podcast with guest Mark Kresge.
A Short bio
Mark and Natalie Kresge lead from a passion for seeing the local church empowered to advance the kingdom of God. As founders of the Collaborative Project, Mark & Natalie advance the Kingdom of God by serving the local church through making disciples, developing leaders, and equipping families to be healthy.
They have been married for 11 years and have a 4-year-old son, Jude. They reside in Sacramento, CA and have a love for movies, competition, and sushi.
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In part one of our conversation, we explore with Mark some practical steps leaders should consider when hiring and developing staff/team members. He also shares some ideas on
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Friday Sep 23, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP: 21 - WITH GUEST VERNON GORDON
Friday Sep 23, 2022
Friday Sep 23, 2022
The Church Explained podcast is a conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
Welcome to Season 2 Episode: 21 of the Church Explained Podcast with guest Vernon Gordon from The Life Church in Richmond, VA.
A Short bio
Vernon is the Lead Pastor of The Life Church in Virginia and the founder of the Mosaic project. A non-profit focused on curating social change and cultural unity for the greater good. He is a self-proclaimed expert on bacon and movies.
He is also an author of a brand new book called Square One: Finding The courage to start over, stay strong, and shape your future. And more importantly, he is married to Ashley and has two children, Madison and Jackson.
In part two of the conversation, we explore with Vernon how we can create margin in our leadership and churches to afford us the space to innovate the future church.
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Friday Sep 16, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP: 20 - WITH GUEST VERNON GORDON
Friday Sep 16, 2022
Friday Sep 16, 2022
The Church Explained podcast is a conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
Welcome to Season 2 Episode: 20 of the Church Explained Podcast with guest Vernon Gordon from The Life Church in Richmond, VA.
A Short bio
Vernon is the Lead Pastor of The Life Church in Virginia and the founder of the Mosaic project. A non-profit focused on curating social change and cultural unity for the greater good. He is a self-proclaimed expert on bacon and movies.
He is also an author of a brand new book called Square One: Finding The courage to start over, stay strong, and shape your future. And more importantly, he is married to Ashley and has two children, Madison and Jackson.
In part one of the conversation, Vernon humbly shares his personal story of overcoming cancer as a child and how this led to his first steps into ministry. We also explore ideas around innovation and how to encourage our teams and church to embrace failures, as it is through this experimental approach that often leads to solutions to problems our world is facing.
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Friday Sep 09, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP:19 - WITH GUEST DUSTIN STRADLEY
Friday Sep 09, 2022
Friday Sep 09, 2022
The Church Explained podcast is a conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
Welcome to Season 2 Episode: 19 of the Church Explained Podcast with guest Dustin Stradley from Elevation Church.
A Short bio
Dustin has been married to Maddie for four years, and they have just had their first daughter, Jovie Catherine. He has been in vocational ministry for nine years and is currently the regional pastor overseeing and leading multiple Elevation Church campuses throughout Florida in the US.
In part two of the conversation, Dustin shares four keys they use at Elevation Church to help develop leaders. He also explains the importance of focusing on our WHY rather than on our WHAT.
Part two is also packed with some fantastic leadership insights.
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Friday Sep 02, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP:18 - WITH GUEST DUSTIN STRADLEY
Friday Sep 02, 2022
Friday Sep 02, 2022
The Church Explained podcast is a conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
Welcome to Season 2 Episode: 18 of the Church Explained Podcast with guest Dustin Stradley from Elevation Church.
A Short bio
Dustin has been married to Maddie for four years, and they have just had their first daughter, Jovie Catherine. He has been in vocational ministry for nine years and is currently the regional pastor overseeing and leading multiple Elevation Church campuses throughout Florida in the US.
In part one of the conversation, Dustin shares his faith story, call to ministry and some unique leadership insights around validation, healthy life rhythms and the need to focus on what we want to be in five years from now rather than what we want to do.
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Friday Aug 12, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP:17 - WITH GUEST STEVE CAMPBELL
Friday Aug 12, 2022
Friday Aug 12, 2022
Welcome to Season 2, Episode: 17 of the Church Explained Podcast.
A conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
Welcome back to part two, with Steve Campbell
From his experience of 28 years serving at C3 Church, Steve shares key ideas around hearing the voice of God, the language we use with our teams and the opportunities that are now available to the Global Church.
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Friday Aug 05, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP:16 - WITH GUEST STEVE CAMPBELL
Friday Aug 05, 2022
Friday Aug 05, 2022
Welcome to Season 2, Episode: 16 of the Church Explained Podcast.
A conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
In today’s show, we are joined by Steve Campbell.
Steve and his wife Angie moved to Cambridge in 1994 to lead the C3 team. As Senior Pastors, they have led C3 into an influential, pioneering church known for its worship, teaching and generosity.
Steve has taught in many different contexts throughout the UK and beyond. He works closely with a number of different streams and churches, teaching and advising on his greatest passion, the local church. As a gifted communicator, Steve has a conviction to change the perception of the Church and loves to challenge people’s mindsets of what the Church should be.
In part one, Steve talks about leadership challenges and opportunities and the importance of trusting the leaders on your team to make good decisions to prevent bottlenecks in your leadership and church.
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Friday Jul 29, 2022
CEP SEASON TWO EP:15 - WITH GUEST WADE JOYE
Friday Jul 29, 2022
Friday Jul 29, 2022
Welcome to Season 2 Episode: 15 of the Church Explained Podcast.
A conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
Welcome to part two of the show with Wade Joye, who shares the importance of recognising and understanding the healthy tensions we face in leadership.
Wade most recently served as the Worship Pastor at Elevation Church under the leadership of Pastor Steven Furtick for 14 years. He oversaw the development of the worship culture and staffing for 20 locations, spearheaded the growth of Elevation Worship, and was instrumental in creating the systems that allowed Elevation Worship songs to go around the world as he led the record label and touring teams.
Wade also led the teams that executed the weekend worship experiences, oversaw service programming, and coached campus pastors on their on-stage hosting and preaching. In addition, Wade was a regular speaker on the main stage at Elevation Church.
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Friday Jul 22, 2022
CEP BITE-SIZE EP:13 - WITH PETER WAN
Friday Jul 22, 2022
Friday Jul 22, 2022
Welcome to Bite-size episode: 13 of the Church Explained Podcast. A conversation to help grow your leadership, develop your team and build your church. Your hosts will be Dave Mckeown and Nathan Benger. We will talk about all things leadership with key team players from IKON Church and other guests during each show.
We are joined in this Bite-size episode by Peter Wan, the Lead Pastor of a thriving church in Taiwan. Peter shares some brilliant ideas on what takes us from being a good leader to being a great leader.
The full-length episode can be found here and includes the show notes and a transcript.
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We help leaders find solutions by our
2. FREE LEADERSHIP AND CHURCH RESOURCES
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